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Double-Dip Recession

Started by Terry, September 26, 2010, 05:31:26 PM

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hammondjam

I've seen that unfriendly woman at several OU games. She works her way through the crowd like some megastar. Republican shill comes to mind. She is nothing more than the horny shadow of old BIGHEAD Keating.

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Mr T

But, but, but...the Republicans will provide good jobs and health insurance for us!  All we have to do is set the rich free and they will build factories and shops!

It would be funny if it weren't so sad, and if so many people didn't believe it to be true.  Haven't we been down this road a couple of times before?
"Everything You Know is Wrong"

RatSass

I have always wondered about certain aspects of our tax system.  Why should we be taxed on what we earn?  It seems that someone making 25K a year uses about the same services as someone making 60K.  Why should some be taxed at 25% and others at almost 50%? 

Sir Jeffrey

And why should single people with no children (and never will) have to pay taxes for schools, parks, etc.?

Mr T

I guess we could tax everyone at 25% across the board, straight up, no exemptions or finagling.  No off-shoring.  No special hiding-places or taxable categories.  25% of everything that comes in goes out.
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Sir Jeffrey

I support a national sales tax (fair tax) approach. That would catch every profession that avoids paying anything (contractors, delivery drivers, drug dealers, strippers, etc.). With the exception of property taxes, counties, cities and states receive their revenue inthis fashion, why not the federal government?

Terry

``people need to know that we can get rid of the IRS, and have no new Tax.''  @ first  that sounds great, " idit give the gov time to rethink what they're ' {doing} doing '2' "US".  But "WE" must be taxed, since that's the only way the gov can make money!  Let's just decide ( how much they need - and to ask for it very politely ) - - - let "US" decide "NOT Pelosi... RIGHT!?
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WhatMeWorry?

Quote from: RatSass on October 01, 2010, 10:54:57 AM
I have always wondered about certain aspects of our tax system.  Why should we be taxed on what we earn?We dont want to live in a real 3rd world nation?  It seems that someone making 25K a year uses about the same services as someone making 60K.How many times will a 25k a year individual fly out of Will Rogers airport?  Why should some be taxed at 25% and others at almost 50%?Taxes should be fair when income is fair. Or why should someone make 25k a year and others 1.6 billion?

hammondjam

A lot of people of wealth have accountants that make use of every loophole they can to keep the tax bill low. I knew a multi-millionaire doctor that used to buy salt wells just so he could claim a loss. His taxes were still in the five figures still but what he kept was astonomical. 25% of a $25,000 household affects those folks more than 25% of a 5 million dollar household(with a CPA on retainer).
Dog will HUNT!

RatSass

Quote from: WhatMeWorry? on October 01, 2010, 06:19:09 PMWe dont want to live in a real 3rd world nation?

How does the method the government uses to take my money correlate to me wanting to live in a 3rd world nation?

Quote from: WhatMeWorry? on October 01, 2010, 06:19:09 PMHow many times will a 25k a year individual fly out of Will Rogers airport?


How does different tax rates have anything to do with flying?


Quote from: WhatMeWorry? on October 01, 2010, 06:19:09 PMOr why should someone make 25k a year and others 1.6 billion?


Some are  lazy and some are not, some are achievers and some would rather sit around and wait for entitlements from the government.

Sir Jeffrey

RatSass, that post was so far out there I did not respond but I liked your response to it, lol ::;: ::;: ::;:

WhatMeWorry?

Quote from: RatSass on October 01, 2010, 09:14:49 PM
How does the method the government uses to take my money correlate to me wanting to live in a 3rd world nation?You are right. The government doesnt build and maintain the infrastructure that makes America a first world nation. And paying taxes isnt how it springs into existence. Maybe its gods reward for the American individualist ethos.

How does different tax rates have anything to do with flying?The government runs the airports. Thats a service. 25k a year folks dont use that service at the same rate as 60k a year people or 750k a year people.

Some are  lazy and some are not, some are achievers and some would rather sit around and wait for entitlements from the government.Well thanks for taking the time away from your luxurious billionaire life to interact with the lazy underachievers. :rolleyes:

WhatMeWorry?

Quote from: Sir Jeffrey on October 02, 2010, 05:39:30 AM
RatSass, that post was so far out there I did not respond but I liked your response to it, lol ::;: ::;: ::;:

I had you pegged as brighter than that.

Disappointing.

WhatMeWorry?

Quote from: hammondjam on October 01, 2010, 06:28:38 PM
A lot of people of wealth have accountants that make use of every loophole they can to keep the tax bill low. I knew a multi-millionaire doctor that used to buy salt wells just so he could claim a loss. His taxes were still in the five figures still but what he kept was astonomical. 25% of a $25,000 household affects those folks more than 25% of a 5 million dollar household(with a CPA on retainer).

Its pretty simple isnt it.

And downright unfair.

And then they say if ya aint rich you are lazy or an underachiever.

And they are only third world rich themselves.

They are nuts.

Whoo

Well, I do believe a flat tax on income is very appropriate, and correct me if I'm wrong (entirely possible), but don't we already pay a flat tax on services already via sales tax?  Granted, it may vary a bit from city to city, but that could be fixed on a state level. 

There's some business tax loopholes I think are grossly unfair - for instance, my boss gets to buy a car under his corporation and gets to write the payments off as a business expense...well hell, I have to drive to work every day too, and run business-related errands, so why shouldn't I be allowed to write a car payment off as well?   >:(  I'm not talking about writing off mileage, I know that's a reimburseable expense so long as a log is kept, but the car itself and the insurance being write-offs (to whatever percentage)?  That's just wrong.  Why should a business or member of a certain profession get a "professional discount" on services?  If the discount applies to one it should be applied to all.  It's back door elitism.
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