Marijuana

[flybananas]

http://www.gotquestions.org/medical-marijuana.html

Genesis 1:29

American King James Version

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

[flybananas]

hydrocodone

when hubbysez almost DIED with that one bad tooth infection they had him on Lortabs.  He got addicted.  He was on the 10 mgs for about two weeks.

He got to the point he knew he wasn't using them for pain.  He got very very (he says add one more VERY!) cranky when they were gone. 

When the hospital (when i was 17) weened me from Demerol I was MISERABLE from "the wants" tho there was other pain meds, just not quite as strong. (that was after my horrendous car accident)  NEVER EVER EVER have I had that happen back when I imbibed on marijuana.  Hubbz reports the same....

[mr.willy]

So, medical marijuana.  Since the government does not allow the testing to see if it IS useful, now what?  Do you feel that it might be useful, and maybe they should at least look?

Mr T Check this out, lot of reading and different views  ;D

The IOM report, Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base, released in March 1999, found that marijuana's active components are potentially effective in treating pain, nausea and vomiting, AIDS-related loss of appetite, and other symptoms and should be tested rigorously in clinical trials. The therapeutic effects of smoked marijuana are typically modest, and in most cases there are more effective medicines. But a subpopulation of patients do not respond well to other medications and have no effective alternative to smoking marijuana...

Because the chronic use of marijuana can have negative effects, the benefits should be weighed against the risks...

Most of the identified health risks of marijuana use are related to smoke, not to the cannabinoids that produce the benefits. Smoking is a primitive drug delivery system. The one advantage of smoking is that it provides a rapid-onset drug effect. The effects of smoked marijuana are felt within minutes, which is ideal for the treatment of pain or nausea. If marijuana is to become a component of conventional medicine, it is essential that we develop a rapid-onset cannabinoid delivery system that is safer and more effective than smoking crude plant material."

http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=001325

As I have said, I'm not against medical mj but most diffidently against recreational mj  ;D   

[hammondjam]

As I have said, I'm not against medical mj but most diffidently against recreational mj  ;D

If you're against recreational use, the key is....don't do it. However, keep your opinions and your votes separate so you don't infringe on the rights of others that have no problems with it.

Also, when the pharmaceutical folks start screwing with a "safer" delivery system, I KNOW(from experience) that they will CHANGE it to something else. They ONLY want to change it so they can patent it. End of story.

Of course, you'll believe some report from some official sounding group over people that actually have experience AND healthy lives! These conversations are worthless unless you're open to learning. You're arguing with a lot of people that know fact from BS but you continue to take your stand. I tried to be patient but this is worthless. I feel like I'm arguing with Aunt Bea.

Heading back to Norman....

[mr.willy]

hammondjam you keep your opinions and your votes separate and don't infringe on the rights of others that have problems with mj and  a conversations with you is worthless unless you  open up your attitude of learning the harmful effects of the use of mj.

[mr.willy]

Genesis 1:29

American King James Version
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And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Genesis 1:29, KJV

flybananas Marijuana smokers are especially fond of the King James version, since it uses the word "herb". However, the Hebrew word is much less specific, having the general meaning "plant," with the root word having the meaning "green." Further, the verse talks about fruit trees, indicating that the real meaning of the verse is about edible plants.  So, the verse makes it clear that God created the plants for us for eating. It doesn't say anything about smoking them!

[flybananas]

ACTUALLY many of the versions use herb.  I CHOSE king james because it is the most widely accepted.  Didn't want it to come from some new fangled Bible....

and God didn't say NOT to smoke it. 


ACTUALLY (again) the safest way to use MJ is a vaporizer. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbmHu5Qlf2A

No smoke.  No lung damage.

[mr.willy]

COQUILLE, Ore. -- An investigation into possible drug impairment led to a drug bust in Coquille.

Coquille police officers responded to a call on Tuesday morning where they found a 16-year-old under the influence and in possession of a marijuana brownie at Coquille High School.

Their investigation led them to an address on North Central Boulevard, within 1,000 feet of the school, where they discovered a large quantity of hash oil, scales, packaging and a pound of marijuana brownies.

The case is being forwarded to the District Attorney's Office.  Anyone with information on this case should call Coquille Police at 541-396-2114.

http://kezi.com/news/local/191811

Marijuana in crib among pretrial motions for teen father charged with baby's death

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Marijuana-in-crib-among-pretrial-motions-for-teen-father-charged-with-babys-death-104769649.html

[hammondjam]

T said that there was some indisputable evidence that pot IS bad. Had to see it!

The first just says that teens do indeed use pot. I'm not for it but I'm not for teens driving cars really fast before they have good skills. Let's make cars illegal so we can protect the children. This will also jelp to starve the terrorists of their oil money in the Middle East as well as getting rid of a REAL lung hazard...carbon monoxide from exhaust.

The second is a non issue. Pot was found in the baby's crib. Did it kill the kid or was it just there? I'll bet there were blankets and pillows in there too. Many babies die from suffocating on pillows and while they are on their stomachs. Let's make cribs illegal too.  :o :-*

[mr.willy]

Pot was found in the baby's crib.

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This will also jelp to starve the terrorists

::O: ::O: ::O: ::O:

[WhatMeWorry?]

I dream of a world free from Risk.

I hate that game!









Just kidding.

I love playing Risk.

Especially while stoned.

[Mr T]

Mr Willy, marijuana did not kill the baby.  A person killed the baby.  You can probably locate 100 articles where drugs were found in the home in a case like this, and I can find 199 where no drugs were found.

We could link till the cows come home and it won't make any difference in the ACTUAL problem.

[mr.willy]

A person killed the baby.

While under the influence of mj!!!!!!

[Mr T]

But what about all the folk who kill kids but DON'T use any drugs?  The problem is the abuse and death.  Marijuana could disappear from the planet and this would still be happening.

Why?  Why is this happening? ::(: ::(:

[mr.willy]

Marijuana and Youth – Experiences From a Practicing Physician
Christian Thurstone, M.D. 
October 13, 2010



The impact medical marijuana has had on our adolescent substance-abuse treatment program in Denver is profound.

The 2009 boom in marijuana distribution coincides with a tripling of teens referred to our program. Currently, 51 percent of our patients report getting their marijuana from someone with a medical marijuana license.

http://ofsubstance.gov/blogs/pushing_back/archive/2010/10/13/51652.aspx