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Palehorse

Quote from: mr.willy on October 18, 2010, 09:12:16 PM
Marijuana is the most consistent gateway drug. More hard-drug users can link their first drug days to this substance. Young users are two to five times more likely to eventually move on to harder drugs. One study by The Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University showed that adolescents who used marijuana were 85 times more likely to use cocaine than adolescents who abstained. The same study's results showed that 60% percent of children who smoked it before they turned 15 years old would later go on to use cocaine.

This is a bunch of conjecture and nothing more, In fact, the true gateway drugs are alcohol and nicotine! Even caffeine is more addictive than marijuana!

mr.willy

QuoteColumbia University showed that adolescents who used marijuana were 85 times more likely to use cocaine than adolescents who abstained. The same study's results showed that 60% percent of children who smoked it before they turned 15 years old would later go on to use cocaine.

QuoteThis is a bunch of conjecture and nothing more,


So Palehorse knows more then Columbia University. ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

Palehorse

Quote from: mr.willy on October 18, 2010, 09:12:16 PM
Marijuana is the most consistent gateway drug. More hard-drug users can link their first drug days to this substance. Young users are two to five times more likely to eventually move on to harder drugs. One study by The Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University showed that adolescents who used marijuana were 85 times more likely to use cocaine than adolescents who abstained. The same study's results showed that 60% percent of children who smoked it before they turned 15 years old would later go on to use cocaine.


(cannabis - historic research) "The identification of cannabis as a potentially dangerous psychoactive substance did not, however, prevent a substantial number of these enquiries to explore the issue of whether current legislation reflected the real dangers posed by cannabis. Already in 1944, the La Guardia Committee Report on Marihuana concluded that 'the practice of smoking marihuana does not lead to addiction in the medical sense of the word' and that 'the use of marihuana does not lead to morphine or heroin or cocaine addiction' (Zimmer and Morgan, 1997). In 1968 the Wootton Report stated that 'the dangers of cannabis use as commonly accepted in the past and the risk of progression to opiates have been overstated' and 'cannabis is less harmful than other substances (amphetamines, barbiturates, codeine-like compounds)'. A similar conclusion was arrived at 34 years later in 2002 when the Advisory Committee on Drug Dependence proposed the reclassification of cannabis from Class B to Class C (enforced by law in 2004 and confirmed in 2005). These views were reiterated by other enquiries, such as the Baan Committee in the Netherlands, which affirmed in 1971 that 'cannabis use does not lead directly to other drug use' (16) or by the US National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse, which in 1973 stated that 'the existing social and legal policy is out of proportion to the individual and social harm engendered by the use of the drug [cannabis]' (17). The Canadian Le Dain Commission saw 'the UN Single Convention of 1961 as responsible' for such a situation which 'might have reinforced the erroneous impression that cannabis is to be assimilated to the opiate narcotics'. The same commission, however, suggested that the UN Convention did 'not prevent domestic legislation from correcting this impression' (18)."

Source: EMCDDA (2008), "A cannabis reader: global issues and local experiences," Monograph series 8, Volume 1, European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction, Lisbon, p. 108.
http://eldd.emcdda.europa.eu/attachements.cfm/att_60586_EN_Monograph-ch7...
Quote from: mr.willy on October 19, 2010, 08:54:27 AM

So Palehorse knows more then Columbia University. ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

Baiting is destructive. You asked I answered. Your lies have been exposed.

mr.willy

QuoteInternational law

The United Nations Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs (1961) elevated the control on

narcotic substances and on cannabis to a global level. Under the system introduced in

1961 (mainly imported from previous treaties), cannabis is to be considered as one of

the most dangerous existing drugs (3).

This section discusses the texts of the UN Convention. While this approach may appear

legalistic to the non-specialist reader, a thorough understanding of the legal status of

cannabis under international law is vital for understanding the 'room for manoeuvre'(4)

given to different countries on the issue.

Cannabis, cannabis resin and extracts and tincture of cannabis are listed in Schedule

I of the 1961 Convention among substances whose properties might give rise to

dependence and which present a serious risk of abuse, which are subject to all control

measures envisaged by the Convention (5). Cannabis and cannabis resin are again

listed in Schedule IV of the 1961 Convention, which comprises 15 substances already

listed in Schedule I that are considered particularly dangerous by virtue of their harmful

characteristics, risks of abuse and extremely limited therapeutic value. Among these

15 substances, we find heroin and cannabis but not cocaine, which is (only) listed in

Schedule I.

(2) Giffen et al. (1991) affirm that 'unlike other narcotic drugs brought under federal control up to the

1920s, marijuana was added to the Schedule I in 1925, before it came to be defined as a social

problem in Canada. Why this was so remains a mystery'.

(3) Article 2.5(a) of the 1961 Convention introduces the concept of dangerousness for substances

included in schedule IV.

(4) 'Room for manoeuvre' was the title of a report commissioned by the British charity Drugscope,

with a focus on the UN conventions and potential changes to UK drugs possession laws (Dorn and

Jamieson, 2000).

(5) There are four schedules under the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs: Schedule I — those

substances which are, inter alia, having, or convertible into substances having a liability to abuse

comparable to that of cannabis, cannabis resin or cocaine; Schedule II — having addiction-producing

or addiction-sustaining properties not greater than those of codeine but at least as great as those of

dextropropoxyphene; Schedule III — preparations which are intended for legitimate medical use, and

which the WHO considers not liable to abuse and cannot produce ill effects, and the drug therein is

not readily recoverable; and Schedule IV — substances that are particularly liable to abuse and to

produce ill effects, and such liability is not offset by substantial therapeutic advantages not possessed

by substances other than drugs in Schedule IV



http://eldd.emcdda.europa.eu/attachements.cfm/att_60586_EN_Monograph-ch7.

Your cherry pick en  Palehorse like usual...........

Palehorse

Like you are not mr willy!  ::)

mr.willy

QuoteLike you are not mr willy!

So you are admitting to it Palehorse  ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

Palehorse

Quote from: mr.willy on October 19, 2010, 02:14:34 PM
So you are admitting to it Palehorse  ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

I admit nothing mr willy. It is up to you to prove your points or move on. I proved your supposed facts are nothing more than conjecture. Prove otherwise or move on. . .

Palehorse

http://www.youtube.com/v/gWhUqo9Aivs

WARNING: Explicit language! If you are easily offended do not play this video!

mr.willy

QuoteI admit nothing mr willy. It is up to you to prove your points or move on

I have prove my points with my posting and you Palehorse continue to cherry pick and It's up to you to prove your points that mj is not a drug thats effect the YOUTH OF THIS COUNTRY, and in your own words 
QuoteI admit nothing mr willy
because you have no common sense at all, and afraid to admit that mj is a problem. The Use of marijuana does have adverse health, safety, social, academic, economic, and behavioral consequences; and children are the most vulnerable to its damaging effects.

Marijuana is defiantly the most widely used illicit drug in America and is readily available to kids, and Compounding the problem is that the marijuana of today is not the marijuana of the baby boomers 30 years ago.The average THC levels rose from less than 1 percent in the mid-1970s to more than 8 percent in 2004. And the potency of B.C. Bud, a popular type of marijuana cultivated in British Columbia, Canada, is roughly twice the national average-ranging from 15 percent THC content to 20 percent or even higher.

Now this is fact and not conjecture,and YOU cannot Prove otherwise, so it time that YOU realize the TRUTH AND GET your LIFE TOGETHER and  move on. . . :)

Palehorse

Quote from: mr.willy on October 19, 2010, 06:10:37 PM
I have prove my points with my posting and you Palehorse continue to cherry pick and It's up to you to prove your points that mj is not a drug thats effect the YOUTH OF THIS COUNTRY, and in your own words   because you have no common sense at all, and afraid to admit that mj is a problem. The Use of marijuana does have adverse health, safety, social, academic, economic, and behavioral consequences; and children are the most vulnerable to its damaging effects.

Marijuana is defiantly the most widely used illicit drug in America and is readily available to kids, and Compounding the problem is that the marijuana of today is not the marijuana of the baby boomers 30 years ago.The average THC levels rose from less than 1 percent in the mid-1970s to more than 8 percent in 2004. And the potency of B.C. Bud, a popular type of marijuana cultivated in British Columbia, Canada, is roughly twice the national average-ranging from 15 percent THC content to 20 percent or even higher.

Now this is fact and not conjecture,and YOU cannot Prove otherwise, so it time that YOU realize the TRUTH AND GET your LIFE TOGETHER and  move on. . . :)

Amusing how you sit in judgement of me just as you do marijuana! You don't even know me, you don't know who or what I am, yet you feel comfortable enough in to sit in judgement of me?

Clearly you know nothing about me, nor about marijuana and its use / users. I submit that despite the accredited information I have provided to you that clearly disproves your talking points; it is not dialog that you seek here, but rather discourse!

Marijuana is only illicit because of the knee jerk reaction that listed it in the first place. There is NO validation for it being there, yet there it is. Fact is, 13 aspirin will kill you a lot quicker than mary jane ever would. Drinking 30 gallons of milk will kill you!

Oldest trick in the book, and a typical political ploy these days as well I might add. When you cannot discredit the information, attack the messenger!  ::)

mr.willy

Katt Williams  mugshot and is what your brain looks like on drugs for real. What a waste.


this is one of Palehorse heroes, ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

QuoteWhen you cannot discredit the information, attack the messenger!

Practice what YOUR PREACHING  Palehorse. ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

QuoteYou don't even know me,
AND you DO NOT KNOW ME Practice what YOUR PREACHING  Palehorse YOUR STARTING TO LOOK LIKE AND TALK LIKE A FOOL. ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:



Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2010, 06:32:42 PM
. . .
Oldest trick in the book, and a typical political ploy these days as well I might add. When you cannot discredit the information, attack the messenger!  ::)
Quote from: mr.willy on October 19, 2010, 06:57:28 PM
Katt Williams  mugshot and is what your brain looks like on drugs for real. What a waste.


this is one of Palehorse heroes, ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:

Practice what YOUR PREACHING  Palehorse. ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:
AND you DO NOT KNOW ME Practice what YOUR PREACHING  Palehorse YOUR STARTING TO LOOK LIKE AND TALK LIKE A FOOL. ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:




Stick a fork in him/her - s/he's done!

mr.willy

QuoteIt is up to you to prove your points
::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D: ::D:
QuoteStick a fork in him/her - s/he's done!


Palehorse for some reason I think you want to slit my throat like MEXICAN CARTELS ARE GUILTY OF. ::D: ::D:

Goodnight Palehorse and stay off that mj. ;D

mr.willy

JWH-018, CP 47,497 and the C6, C8 and C9 homologues of CP 47,497 are illegal in Germany since 22 January 2009

Palehorse I suppose you approve of the use of Spice also. ::O:




Palehorse

Quote from: mr.willy on October 20, 2010, 10:46:05 AM
JWH-018, CP 47,497 and the C6, C8 and C9 homologues of CP 47,497 are illegal in Germany since 22 January 2009

Palehorse I suppose you approve of the use of Spice also. ::O:

Synthesized versions of what nature creates is never a good idea. . . and rarely as effective.